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COMPREHENSIVE VIETNAM MILITARY WATCHES TREA; FAKE

Published on: March 5, 2015

 

US GOVERNMENT ISSUED VIETNAM WAR WATCHES
WITH A SECTION ON FAKE & COUNTERFEITS

READ BEFORE BUYING VIETNAM
ERA MILITARY WATCH

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THERE WERE NEVER ANY NAMES ON DIAL
OR US NAVY US ARMY US MARINES OR AIR FORCE EVER
OK, I HAVE PUT A VIETNAM MILITARY
WATCH PDF TOGETHER IT IS FREE

FREE DTU-2 EDUCATIONAL PDF
ALL PDF BELOW ARE ROCK’S WORK INCLUDING RESTORED WATCHES

BELOW IS WALTHAM WATCH COMPANY
REQUESTING TO PLACE THE WALTHAM BRAND ON THE DIAL
OF MILITARY CONTRACT WATCHES & A FOLLOW-UP DENYING

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THE MILITARY REPLY IS “NOT” “CANNOT DUE”
NOTHING WHAT SO EVER AS FAR AS BRANDING

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 Below is the Official info on the Vietnam US issue Watch
No Matter The Maker
THEY ALL HAD TO BE AS WRITTEN
– AND NO CASE BACKS
NO NAME OR ANYTHING ON DIAL
NO LONGINES OMEGA J LeCoultre OR
MOST  OF THOSE OFFERED ON EBAY

FULL PDF

http://lsyf.com/MIL-W-3818B_Spec.pdf

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MIL-W 3818A

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RESTORED BY TOCK GREEN BERET 3818A
Oct-Oct/1961_bulova_hacking_3818a.html

MIL-W-3818A WAS THE A-11 OF 1950’S THE A-17. THE US CONTRACT WAS A FIRST FOR 24HR CHAPTER. ALL THESE WATCHES HACKED. MOST WERE NOT MARKED WITH MAKER ON DIAL. GREEN BERET SOLDIERS RECEIVED THE A VERSION.

TWO PIECE CASE.-REMOVABLE CASE BACK

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MIL-W 3818B
DTU-2A/P


SINGLE CASE 1968 DTU-2A/P BENRUS RESTORED BY ROCK

MIL-W 3818b WAS THE FIRST  FULLY RE DESIGNED MIL WATCH THAT RECEIVED THE NAME DTU-2A/P . THE FIRST CONTRACT WAS FOR 10,000+ UNITS FOR THE MARINES. BENRUS WON IT AND BULOVA PROTESTED BUT LOST. THIS WAS THE VERY FIRST TO USE THE ABOVE SPECS

SINGLE CASE. CRYSTAL REMOVED TO INSTALL MOVEMENT
SIGNED ON BACK

CONT.NO. GS-00S-61940 SERIAL NO xxxxxx
DATE June 1969
WRIST WATCH DTU-2A/P MIL-W-3818B
MFG. PART. NO XZ73065
FED STOCK NO 6645-066-4279
U.S.

MIL-W-46374 OD
Plastic CASE OK


RESTORED BY ROCK PLASTIC MIL-W-46374A

The next version [1 ]MIL-W-46374 AND THE [2]MIL-W-46374A– version permitting plastic 1970-1975.BENRUS WESTCLOX HAMILTON. SINGLE CASE. CRYSTAL REMOVED TO INSTALL MOVEMENT

SIGNED ON BACK

1-U.S. Wristwatch General purpose Non-Maintainable
MIL-W-46374
Fed. Stock No.6645-952-3767
APR 1969

2-Watch-wrist General purpose Non-Maintainable [PLASTIC OK]
Mil-W-46374A
Westclox No. 75062
FSN 6645-952-3767
DAAA25-70-D-0335
Sept 1970
US

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MIL-W-3818A

THE FIRST SPECIFIC WATCHES UTILIZED IN NAM WAS THE 3818A
WHICH WAS UTILIZED BY GREEN BERET / SPECIAL FORCES

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NOTE IT HAS THE LOOK OF A-11/A-17 HACK BUT LABELED 3818A HACK

 

 

DTU-2AP.-MIL-W-3818B

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THEN A CONTRACT WAS AWARDED TO BENRUS. BENRUS PRODUCED THE FIRST VIETNAM WATCH AND IT WAS THE FIRST SINGLE CASE SYSTEM WITH TWO PART CRYSTAL LOCKING MIL-W-3818B KNOWN AS DTU-2AP. ALL WATCHES AFTER THE BENRUS WERE SINGLE CASE. STEEL AND PLASTIC. BENRUS BUILT 10,000 FOR THE MARINE CORPS. FOLLOWED UP THE MIL-W-3818A. [U.S. VIETNAM WATCHES WERE NON-MAINTENANCE. THEY HAD TO LAST 2 YEARS WITH NO REPAIRS]

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MILITARY WATCHES USA ORDINANCE ISSUE
DPU-2A/P MIL-W-3118B
MIL-W-3818B_Sepcifications.pdf
MIL-W-4637
milspec-mil-w-46374f.PDF AVAILABLE 3118 specifications pdf 4637 specifications pdf

BULOVA PROTESTS THE BENRUS AWARD OF MILITARY WATCH CONTRACT VIETNAM ISSUE

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WESTCLOX 7 JEWEL NO DIAL BRAND NAME

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HAMILTON STEEL CASE NO DIAL BRAND NAME

 

 

 

 

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BENRUS STEEL CASE NOTE NO DIAL BRAND NAME

 

 

NOTE THERE WERE NO OMEGA LA-COULTRE IWC OR ANY OF THE FAKES SOLD ON THE BAY
NO US ARMY OR US NAVY. NOTE NONE OF THESE HAVE BRAND NAMES

 

 


1968 Belforte
& Benrus plastic
3818A 1968-benrus
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1967 BENRUS SINGLE
MIL-W-3818 – 2A/P
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1972 Metal Hamilton.

1970 Jeambrun/Seiko
plastic Westclox

1965 Benrus “hack” DTU-2A/P

1969
Belforte & Benrus

1965 Plastic Benrus
MIL-W-3818B

Hamilton W-46374A

GG-W-113
 

 

 

MIL-W-46374A AND B & GG-W-113

The MIL-W-46374 series of U.S. Military wrist watches began with specification publication dated 30 October 1964. as a “U.S. Wristwatch Non-Maintainable”. The MIL-W-46374B was required to have a 7 jewel manual wind mechanical movement, stainless steel case and acrylic crystal- though some plastic B series watches occasionally show up.

The strap was OD nylon with a black anodized steel buckle. Typical markings for the MIL-W-46374B watches will be these lines from the only two manufacturers.

On May 7 1975, AFTER VIETNAM the MIL-W-46374B was required to have a “H3? and radiation symbol on the dial to warn that luminous tritium paint was used. H3.

THUS WE HAVE The MIL-W-46374B 3818A 3818B DTU-2A/P AND GG-W-113

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Case designations: PLA = plastic, CRM = corrosion resistant metal; STS = stainless steel . Movement designations: ## j = number of jewels; QTZ = electronic quartz mvt, MEC =manual wind mechanical mvt.; HCK = hacking

US ARMY SPECIFICATION NO. 94-27834-B, dated FEBRUARY 22, 1943 – WATCH, NAVIGATION, TYPE A-11 (HACK):F. METHOD OF INSPECTION AND TESTS:

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1961 SEAL DIVE DIAL

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ABOVE ARE PLASTIC CASED MIL-W-46374B

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Mil-W-46374A
Westclox No. 75092
FSN 6645-952-3767
DAAA25-70-D-0335
Sept 1970
US

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WATCH, Wrist General Purpose MIL-W-46374B Timex Corp. NSN 6645-08-952-3767 Mfg. Part No.DLA 406-81-C-2671Feb 1982
Dispose Rad Waste U.S.
POST VIETNAM

VIETNAM SERVICE

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THE MIL-W-4637 WAS MADE IN 20 STYLES HERE ARE 6 CASES MIL-W-4637 4 THROUGH 4A – 4G 9 1970-1991

 

 

 

MILITARY WATCHES USA

L-W-46374 (published10/30/1964)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Benrus na 6645-952-3767 PLA 7 j MEC 1966-1969    
  Belforte na 6645-952-3767 PLA 7 j MEC 1965 Benrus  

MIL-W-46374A (published 9/10/1968)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Benrus na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA 7 j MEC 1970-1976    
  Westclox na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA Seiko MEC 1970    
  Hamilton na 6645-00-952-3767 CRM 7 j MEC 1970 – 1975(?) Australian Army  
  Hamilton na 6645-00-952-3767 CRM 7 j MEC 1972-1975 US Issue; Part No. 39988  

MIL-W-46374B (published 5/7/1975)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Hamilton na 6645-00-952-3767 CRM 7j MEC 1977-1983 Part no. 39988  
  Timex na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA Timex #24 MEC 1982 Limited distribution  

MIL-W-46374C (published 4/15/1983)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Stocker & Yale na 6645-00-952-3767 PLA 1 j MEC 1983-1984 SandY 184  

MIL-W-46374D (published 10/10/1986)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Stocker & Yale Type 2 6645-00-952-3767 PLA 1 j MEC 1984-1986 SandY 184A  
  Marathon Type 2 6645-00-952-3767 PLA MEC 1990 Model 348  
  Hamilton Type 1 6645-00-066-4279 CRM 17j MEC HCK 1988 39986; Hamilton  

MIL-W-46374E (published 5/31/1989)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Marathon Type 2 6645-01-304-4308 PLA 17j MEC 1991 Mod. 348A; tritium vials introduced  
  Stocker & Yale Type 1 6645-00-066-4279 PLA 17j MEC HCK 1991 SandY 490; tritium vials  

MIL-W-46374F (published 10/14/1991)

      Maker   Type   FSN/NSN   Case   Movement   Dates   Notes:    
  Marathon Type 1 6645-00-066-4279 PLA 17j MEC HCK 199?- 2000 Model 348 A  
  Marathon Type 2 6645-00-952-3767 PLA ??j mech 1997 Model 359  
  Marathon Type 3 6645-01-318-9833 PLA QTZ HCK 199? Model 350A  
  Marathon Type 6 6645-01-364-4042 PLA QTZ HCK 1997 – 2001 Model 211, Navigators  
  Stocker & Yale Type 1 6645-00-066-4279 PLA 17j MEC HCK 1993-199? SandY 490; ETA 2801 movement  
  Stocker & Yale Type 3 6645-01-252-6705 PLA QTZ HCK 199? SandY 590  
  Stocker & Yale Type 6 6645-01-364-4042 PLA QTZ HCK 1995-2000 P650 Navigators  
  Stocker & Yale Type 6 6645-01-364-4042 STS QTZ HCK 1995-1998 P660 Navigators  
                 

MIL-PRF-46374G (published 12/11/1999)

 

 


US GOV ISSUED 1968 VIETNAM WAR SINGLE
PLASTIC CASE WESTCLOX MILITARY WATCH

MOVERMENT VERSIONS

M101 26D 7J 1965 – 1968 MIL VERSION
D407 7J 1965 -1968 MIL VERSION
A 201 17J VERSION
M101 26D 17J 1968 MIL VERSION
M102 26D 21J 1968 MIL VERSION

NOTE. THE VIETNAM WAR HAD PX/BX R&R WATCHES. THESE ARE SOME TO LOOK FOR.
WESTCLOX

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ANOTHER WESTCLOX VIETNAM

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RARE VIETNAM ERA W/DATE

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1962 Westclox
OWNED BY SF MEMBER

PX R&R 1970-1971
SAME WESTCLOX DIAL

PX R&R 1965-1967
SAME WESTCLOX DIAL

 

 

WESTCLOX SOLD AND GAVE AWAY A FEW HUNDRED WESTCLOX WATCHES TO US SPECIAL FORCES ADVISORS IN VIETNAM IN THE LATE 1950’S TO EARLY 1960’S. THE DESIGN FEATURES OF THESE TIME PIECES AS WELL AS THEIR STAMINA IN THE FIELD WOULD FIND THEIR WAY INTO A SERIES OF MILITARY WATCHES THAT WOULD PROVE NOT ONLY TO BE RUGGED AND EXCEPTIONAL, BUT ABLE TO LAST IN THE JUNGLES OF VIETNAM ACCORING TO THE “GOV MUST DO” -LAST TWO YEARS W/O SERVICE . THUS THIS WOULD GAIN WESTCLOX ONE OF THOSE US MILITARY CONTRACTS FOR THOUSANDS OF US MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES FOR TROOPS IN VIETNAM.

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JAPANESE 2 VERSIONS

1968 MIL VERSION 7J
1970 MIL VERSION 7J
1969 M102 21J HK
1964 17J HK

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FRENCH 4 VERSIONS SWISS WITH 4 SQUARE  
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BELOW ARE DSSUED
1969 Belforte & Benrus plastic , 1970 Jeambrun/Seiko plastic plastic Westclox 1972 Metal Hamilton.
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1967 BENRUS METAL SINGLE CASE
MIL-W-3818 – 2A/P MIL-W-3818B


1965 Benrus “hack” DTU-2A/P

1967 BENRUS METAL SINGLE CASE
MIL-W-3818 – 2A/P MIL-W-3818B

1965 Benrus “hack” DTU-2A/P


GG-W-113
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1968 Belforte & Benrus plastic 3818A
1968-benrus-mil-w-3818b

   
1965 Benrus “hack” DTU-2A/P    
     

 

VIETNAM WAR
P/X & R&R

1961 – 1972 Westclox 17J M101/M201 SNAP & SCREW DOWN
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SEIKO 1970 6105 DIVE
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1955-1969 HELBROS CENTER SWEEPS
1960-1970 WYLER INCAFLEX & DYNAWIND
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1968 SEIKO 6106 8100
1968 SEIKO 6119 7170
1965-1970 WALTHAM DIVE
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1965 WALTHAM 24HR
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1969 WESTEND 24HR
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1965- DOXA 300T
1962 1969 GLYCINE 72
WALTHAM DIVE WALTHAM DIVE  

 

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1965 1972 ZODIAC SEA WOLF – OLYMPOS – GMT – 1965-1971BULOVA/CARAVELLE 333/666 DIVE

POPULAR PX/BX R&R
ZODIAC GMT SEIKO 6105 ZODIAC SEA WOLF
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1955-1969 HELBROS TRUE 24HR VIETNAM ERA WYLER HELBROS DIVE
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BULOVA 666 333 CARAVEL BENRUS DIVE 1968 SEIKO 6106 8100
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1968 SEIKO 6119 7170 1965 WALTHAM 24HR WYLER 666
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<<<<<THE GLYCINE AIRMAN WAS POPULAR WITH GROUND TO FLYER
HELO TO JET

THE ZODIAC GMT AEROSPACE
WAS ALSO TOP OF THE LIST. 24 HR & HACKING>>>>>

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NOT EVEN A WALTHAM                         NOT GENUINE

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      LONGINES NEVER MADE THIS WATCH MOVEMENT
AVIGATION NAVIGATION SPECIFICATION SPELLED WRONG  

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ANY OFFER WITH YELLOW COLOR            THERE ARE NO INFO ON EDGES
AND NAME NO GO                           CASES DID NOT SCREW OFF SOLID ONE PIECE

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HAMILTON NEVER MADE MOV    LONGINES NEVER MADE WATCHES FOR NAM
ALSO, LOOKS LIKE THE FAKE LONGINES

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AGAIN LONGINES NEVER MADE VIETNAM US GOV WATCHES
PLUS SPELLING IS WRONG

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NEVER WERE THEY SCREW BACKS
AND NAVIG AND OTHER ITEMS ARE WRONG
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FAKE LONGINES AGAIN

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JAG LA COULTRE NEVER MADE WATCHES FOR US OR ANYONE
NOT THE CHEAP MOVEMENT. GO HTTP://LSYF.COM CLICK DAVID’S RESTORES
TO SEE A REAL JLE MIL MOVEMENT

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NOTE THE YELLOW MARKERS AND HANDS THE BOLOVA ON  DIAL

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FAKE BULOVA

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GENUINE BULOVA HACKING MOVEMENT

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NOT NOT NOT FAKE

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I HIGHLY DOUBT THIS CHEAP VIETNAM CHINA MOV HACKS!
NOTE THE CASE BACK HAS SEAGULL STAMP FAKE

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NOR A HAMILTON HACKING MOVEMENT

 

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THE A-17 ABOVE MADE FOR KOREAN WAR AS THE KOREAN WAR A-11 IS CORRECT

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GG-W-1338   BUT THE ABOVE IS FAKE NOTE DOUBLE STAMP ON US  
DATE 1969 IT SHOULD BE SINGLE CASE NO CASE BACK TO REMOVE.

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ALSO HAD FAKE MOVEMENT

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THE BIGGEST FAKE OMEGA DID NOT MAKE US ISSUE WATCHES
PLUS SEE THE YELLOW?

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BREITLING NEVER MADE US MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES

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ANOTHER FAKE BREITLING
NEVER WAS THAT THERE CHINESE CASE ALSO

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BREITLING NEVER MADE THIS CHEAP MOVEMENT
NOR DID THEY EVER MAKE A US ISSUE

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both fake

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DUMP THESE YELLOW CHINESE FAKES

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YOU CAN SHOUT TILL YOU ARE BLUE IN THE FACE
THESE WERE NO BRITS IN VIETNAM NOR DID THEY SUPPLY WATCHES
THIS HAS US NAVY THE THE BRITISH WWII W.W.W.
STOOD FOR WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF ONLY ENGLISH USED THIS

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HERE WE SEE A7A THAT MEANS DUMP IT

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THIS IS WHAT THE SINGLE CASE SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE

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FAKE A-7  NOTE THE MISSPELLING

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THIS IS THE REAL 1934 A-7 PILOTS WATCH
A POCKET CONVERSION W/BUTTON TO RUN COUNTER IN CROWN

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REMEMBER CASE BACKS DO NOT COME OFF

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SOME DIALS MAY HAVE NAME IN DIAL NON PAINTED
A FEW ELGINS I  SAW REQUIRED GETTING CLOSE AND SEEING A SLIGHT “ELGIN” INDENT

 

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NO US MIL WATCH WAS AUTOMATIC

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NO US NAVY OR US ARMY NEVER HAPPENED
YELLOW LOOK NEVER HAPPENED
ANY THING WITH BRITISH BROAD ARROW NEVER HAPPENED
AUTOMATICS NEVER HAPPENED
A-7 NEVER HAPPENED

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FAKE YELLOW

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FAKE
NO ONE WAS ALLOWED TO PLACE NAMES ON DIAL
NOTE THE CHINES/VIETNAMESE YELLOW COLORED NUMBERS AND HANDS

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FAKE

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FAKE

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FAKE J A C DID NOT MAKE WATCHES FOR NAM
NOR FOR TROOPERS
NOR FOR PX BX OR R&R

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WOW REAL FAKE NO AUTOMATICS

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FAKE
NO US NAVY

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WWW IS A BRITISH MARK WWII
WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF
HAD NO FACT IN VIETNAM
NO BRITS NOR WATCHES

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FAKE

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FAKE

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FAKE

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VIETNAM US GOV ISSUE WATCHES
POCKET   TRENCH & CONVERSIONS
GERMAN SUBMARINE WATCHES  WWII WAR INSPIRED MILITARY WATCHES 

GERMAN MILITARY WATCHES  JAPANESE MILITARY WATCHES
BRITISH WWI WWII MILITARY WATCHES KOREAN WAR GLYCINE AIRMAN
AVIATORS WATCHES  ROLES MARCONI TUDOR
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100% FAKE NOT COUNTERFEIT WATCHES

THE ORGANIZATION IS NOW USING AMERICAN FLAG BACKGROUNDS. YOU WILL SEE HUNDREDS OF OFFERS ALL LOOKING THE SAME

UPDATE: THEY CHANGED THEIR BACK GROUNDS AGAIN. WHICH MEANS OUR WORKS ARE BEING FOLLOWED!

JUST LOOK FOR OFFERS THAT ARE THE SAME ACROSS SELLERS.

HERE WE HAVE TWO FAKES. THESE ARE NOT  COUNTERFEIT, BECAUSE THEY WERE NEVER MADE BY THE COMPANIES ATTRIBUTED TO IN THE SIGNINGS ON THE MOVEMENTS. THUS THEY WERE NOT ISSUED BY THE COMPANIES UNDER ANY CONTRACT AND ARE NOT IN ANY US GOV CONTRACT SPECS. THEY ARE  FAKES SOLD AS SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT. FRAUD. 

THE BOTTOM LEFT IS A FAKE BREITLING AND THE MOVEMENT IS THE SAME AS THE BOTTOM RIGHT FAKE JAEGER LECOULTRE.
NO WAY DID BREITLING AND JLC PRODUCE THE SAME MOVEMENTS.

AND IN FACT, EVEN THE A-11, A-8, MIL-W-3818 38,  GG-W-113, MIL-W-4637 AND OTHER US GOVERNMENT ISSUED WWII AND VIETNAM ERA MILITARY WATCH CONTRACTS PROVIDED THE MAIN PLANS, EACH VENDER/BRAND PRODUCED THEIR OWN MOVEMENTS. SO THEY WERE ALL DIFFERENT.

LIKE THE BREITLING AND LECOULTRE, THE TWO TOP MOVEMENTS ARE ALSO FAKE /FRAUDULENT AN     ELGIN AND WALTHAM WATCH WITH THE  DEAD GIVEAWAY BEING BOTH MOVEMENTS ARE ALIKE. NEITHER ARE ACTUAL MOVEMENTS USED IN MILITARY WATCHES IN THE USA OR ANYWHERE ELSE THAT I CAN TELL .

THE FACT IS  MOVEMENTS OF SEPARATE BRANDS BEING EXACT IS SIMPLY UNHEARD OF IN MILITARY ISSUED WATCHES. WHEN LOOKING AT A BRAND, SEARCH THE BRAND. THEN COMPARE AGAINST OTHER BRANDS, BUT VIEWING THE MOVEMENT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

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Note the watch DIAL SCHEMATIC is the “50000 fathoms” SEAL TEAM

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THE US GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY REQUIRED DIALS TO BE EXACTLY ALIKE. HARDLY ANY VIETNAM ERA WATCH HAD NAMES ON THE DIAL. LOOK AT THE TOP US GOV PHOTO OF ACTUAL DIALS. THEY HAD TO BE EXACT AS TO THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THAT MODEL.

THE EXCEPTIONS TO THE RULE CONCERNING NAMES ON DIALS WERE FEW. THE ABOVE RIGHT DIAL HAS “MFR’S NAME ” ON IT. THE SPEC CALLED FOR IT. THIS IS THE FAMOUS BULOVA FIRST NAVY AUTOMATIC DIVE WATCH CONTRACT  THAT WAS ASSUMED BY BLANCPAIN .

NOTE THE DIAL IS FOR THE DIVE WATCH OUTLINED IN THE 1961 MIL-W-22176 AND 1961 + MIL-W-22176-A SPECIFICATIONS.

THIS WOULD BECOME THE PLANS FOR BLANCPAIN’S FIFTY FATHOMS. BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNED BY THE US NAVY. SEE THE ROUND MOISTURE INDICATOR AT BOTTOM ABOVE SIX? IT WAS DESIGNED IN 1960. BLANCPAIN WOULD MAKE 10,000 WATCHES FOR THE NAVY SEALS. THEN WOULD USE THE DESIGN AS “Milspec 1” WHICH MEANT “MILITARY SPECIFICATIONS 1” (THE ACTUAL NAVEL SPECIFICATIONS ARE ON TIMEFRAUD. THUS THE DATING OF THE WATCH AND THE ACTUAL SPECIFICATIONS ARE REQUIRED IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES TO DISCOVER THE FACTS OF DIALS AND DATES OF PRODUCTION.

NOTE THE GG-W-113 HAS NO NAME.. OK? IF YOU READ CASE BACK AND IT HAS 113 THEN EXPECT NO NAME ON DIAL.

THE A-17 HAD NO NAME… IT HAD RADIUM NUMERALS. LOOK AT THE PICTURE ABOVE! IF THE DIAL LOOKS LIKE ALL THE OTHER FAKES WITH OFF BLACK DIAL WITH YELLOWISH EVERYTHING ELSE SO PERFECT AND NEAT IT IS A FAKE UNLESS DESCRIBED IN DETAIL, AND I MEAN DIAL. THE 3118A HAVE HAD BULOVA ON THE DIAL WHICH HAD TO BE ALLOWED AND REQUESTED BY CONTRACT AND SPECS!

THEY WERE ALL  NOTE THAT WHEN YOU SEE THE FAKES YOU WILL RECOGNIZE THEM IF YOU SIMPLY LOOK!

 

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WESTCLOX BENRUS ET AL. HAD THEIR OWN MOVEMENTS AND THEY LOOK AND ARE SIGNED AND MADE DIFFERENT EVEN IF THE CASES LOOK THE SAME.

THE CASES ON US GOV MIL ISSUE MILITARY WATCHES WERE ALWAYS EXACT TO A CERTAIN DEGREE TO THE SPECS, GET THE ID FROM THE CASE BACK. THE MODEL NUMBER A GOOGLE IT BEFORE YOU INVEST OR BID. USE PICTURES TO SPEED THE PROCESS. COMPARE.

CHECK CASE BACKS FOR SPELLING ERA’ LIKE THE WORD “SPECIFICATION” OR HOW THE WRITING IMPRINTING PRESSING STAMPINGS ARE.

IF YOU KNOW IT IS A FAKE AND BUY IT EVERYONE IS GETTING RIPPED — SOMETIMES IT TAKES TIME TO KNOW, LIKE WHEN IT BREAKS AND THE WATCH MAKER SAYS I CANNOT FIX THIS FAKE

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FAKE WESTCLOX OD PLASTIC CASED VIETNAM ERA MILITARY ISSUE ARE COPIED AND FAKED . LOOK FOR SLOPPY AND MISS-ALIGNED INFO ON CASE BACK. BROAD ARROW AND WWW CASE BACKS ADVERTISED AS US GOV MIL ISSUE ARE FAKE. PERIOD. A-7 DESIGNATION ON CASE BACK ARE FAKE. PERIOD. CASE BACKS WITH SPELLING WRONG ARE FAKE, PERIOD. A-17 OR A-17A ARE FAKE IF THE DIALS ARE NOT LIKE THOSE IN THE #2 PICTURE ABOVE.  AND, WITH HE EXCEPTION OF THE RARE BULOVA/BLANCPAIN NAVY DIVE WATCH EARLY 1960’S, ANY US GOV MILITARY ISSUED WATCH WITH AUTOMATIC MOVEMENT IS FRAUD FAKE AND A RIP OFF. YOU WILL HAVE TO LIE AND COMMIT FRAUD IF YOU READ THIS AND BUY ONE OR HAVE ONE AND RESELL IT AS  WHAT IT IS NOT: GENUINE.

OH.. LET ME HELP YOU OUT. IT SEEMS THE SAME COMPANIES ARE MAKING UP THESE FAKES.

A) SPECIFICATION NOT SPELLED CORRECTLY 60%

B) MFR’S IS NOT SPELLED CORRECTLY

C) A-7 IS A NO BRAINER. NOT UNLESS IT IS A POCKET WATCH CHRONO LONGINES GALLET MOVEMENT ONE BIG POCKET TYPE CROWN WITH PUSHER IN CENTER ALSO NOTE WORDS AVIGATION AND THE MISSPELLING MIR’S INSTEAD OF MRF’S AND SPICIIICATION INSTEAD OF SPECIFICATION. A FAKE SOLD ON EBAY AROUND 9-06/2012 FOR OVER 200.00 US!

D) THE CASE BACK HAS ELGIN STOCK NO 10BNCH OR WALTHAM STOCK NO 10BNCH AND THEN THESE LETTERS/NUMBERS 10BNCH . THE 10BNCH IS THE BULOVA HACKING MOVEMENT PLACED ONLY IN THE BULOVA MIL ISSUE BULOVA STOCK NO. 10BNCH. SO BULOVA STOCK NO 10BNCH WOULD BE PROPER.. BUT EVEN THEN, CHECK WHAT WE ARE SHOWING YOU .

E) BULOVA DID NOT, I REPEAT, DID NOT RECEIVE CONTRACTS FOR VIETNAM ERA GOV MIL SPEC ISSUE WATCHES. WE HAVE THE APPEAL OF BULOVA TO THE U.S. MILITARY BOARD AND THEIR DENIAL TO ALLOW BULOVA TO BE OFFERED CONTRACT FULFILLMENT. BENRUS WAS THE WINNER..

F) BRITISH MILITARY WWII AND AFTER W.W.W. [WRIST WATCH WATERPROOF] AND 1500′ ON, BRITISH BROAD ARROW DESIGNATION SPECIFICATION IS ONLY ON BRITISH WATCHES AND THE BRITISH HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH VIETNAM. ALL THROUGH TIME.. LITERALLY, THE BRITISH ADDED BROAD ARROW TO CASE BACKS AND ON SOME DIALS, WWI, WWII THE 1950’S AND 1960’S, ON TIMERS IN THE 1980’S. THE BRITISH WAR DEPARTMENT ORDERED MILITARY WATCHES DESIGNATED W.W.W FOR WATCH WRIST WATERPROOF. THESE W.W.W. WATCHES WERE TO HAVE BLACK RADIUM DIALS, 15 JEWEL MOVEMENTS, SUB SECONDS- PERSPEX SHATTER RESISTANT GLASS, STRONG CASES WITH EXTRA WATER PROOFING AND LARGE CROWNS. 12 MANUFACTURERS BUREN, CYMA, ETERNA, GRANA, IWC , JLC, Lemania, LONGINES, OMEGA, RECORD, TIMOR and VERTEX] SELECTED TO FILL THE ORDERS. EACH WOULD PRODUCE WATCHES SIMILAR TO EACH OTHER. ALL WOULD HAVE SCREW DOWN CASE BACKS EXCEPT IWC, WHO UTILIZED A SNAP CASE BACK WITH A LEAD WASHER SEAL.

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ANOTHER TARGET FRAUD IS THE ORD. DEPT WATCHES WE DISCOVER FROM ASIA. OR SOMETIMES THE US BUT ARE FROM ASIA. NOTE ABOVE. THEY HAVE USED A COUNTERFEIT DIAL WITH GREEN ILLUMINATED TRIANGULAR MARKERS. THEY PLACED A HAMILTON NAME WITH THE H LOGO — DUH– SCREAMS FAKE. THEN THEY CNC THE CASE BACK. BUT THE GIVEAWAY IS THE MOVEMENTS. YOU SEE IT IS A 1950’S AUTOMATIC. NONE WERE UTILIZED IN US GOV ISSUE MIL WATCHES. AND WHY DID I SAY CNC CUT CASE BACK? THE CASE IS FOR AN AUTOMATIC. SO THEY DID NOT USE A MIL CASE, CASE BACK AND DIAL AND SIMPLY CHANGE THE MOVEMENT. THE ENTIRE ENSEMBLE IS FAKE. MEANING THE BACK CASE WAS CARVED AND NOT STAMPED – ONE CAN TELL BECAUSE IT IS NO PERFECT.

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WHEN YOU SEE CASES TAKE THE TIME TO ASK VENDER WHAT ERA, WHAT IS ON CASE BACK. THEN GOOGLE IT BEFORE YOU MAKE A BID

ADVERTISED ON EBAY AS :

“THE HIL-W-3818A  BRAND ???????  U.S. NAVY MILITARY      ????EXCELLENT  WORKING COLLECTIBLE CONDITION US NAVYÃ?Â? SIGNED ON FACE AND Ã?Â?US NAVY W.W.W.Ã?Â? ON STEEL CASE BACK. HIL-W-3818A SERIAL NO A7845 NO 6645-808-1407 EXCELLENT CONDITION MOVEMENT. VINTAGE ISSUE OLIVE NYLON STRAP.   THE Ã?Â?US NAVYÃ?Â? SIGNED DIAL IS PAINTED BLACK WITH Ã?Â?KHAKIÃ?Â?

THE FAKE –NOT COUNTERFEIT– US NAVY WWW WRIST WATCH IS FRAUD AT IT’S BEST. EVERY THING PART AND NOTATION IS FRAUDULENT. ALL DESIGNED TO STEAL YOUR MONEY. EVER GO TO RESELL? WELL, YOU CAN BE CHARGED WITH FRAUD! CAUSE IT IS FAKE

FAKE ELGIN, OMEGA, WALTHAM , LECOULTRE, BULOVA, WESTCLOX…  US NAVY US ARMY WWW BROAD ARROW DIALS ALL THE SAME MOVEMENTS THE SAME WITH DIFFERENT BRANDS, AUTOMATICS , CASES THE SAME YET UNLIKE WHAT YOU SEE WHEN YOU Google THEM…..

THE US GOVERNMENT, WITH ONE EXCEPTION, THE BULOVA/BLANCPAIN NAVY DIVER, NEVER EVER CONTRACTED OR PRODUCED GOV SPECS FOR AUTOMATIC MOVEMENT WATCHES. THE ONLY ONE WAS THE DIVE WATCH WE DISCUSSED..

ABOVE  WE HAVE A FAKE LONGINES THE DIAL IS NOT A LONGINES DIAL THAT IS ON THE A-7 AND LONGINES NEVER MADE A DIAL LIKE THIS NO LONGINES WERE MADE FOR VIETNAM AND IN WWII LONGINES MADE MILITARY WATCHES BUT NOT THE TYPE OFFERED THROUGH US GOVERNMENT AND THE DIALS WERE WHITE OR BLACK WITH RAISED RADIUM NUMBERS WITH 24HR ALSO ON SOME.

WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS MOVEMENT WE SEE CHEAP ALSO WE SEE A 360 DEGREE AUTOMATIC MEANING THE ROTOR SPINS 360 DEGREES ONLY THE BUMPER 180 WAS AVAILABLE BEFORE 1950 OR A RARE ROLEX 360. FACT IS, AS I SAID, NEVER EVER A US MILITARY WATCH NOR A LONGINES MOVEMENT

 AND, AS DESCRIBED BELOW,  UNDER A-7  AVIGATION, THE TYPE A-7 WAS BEFORE THE A-8 JITTERBUG NAV 1938 TIMER  AND THE 1942 A-11 HACKING PILOTS WATCH . THE A-7 WAS A CHRONOGRAPH WITH GALLET CHRONO MOVEMENT WITH LARGE CROWN WITH CENTER BUTTON IN CROWN IT WAS MORE LIKE A POCKET WATCH  CASE  WITH TWO SUB-DIALS ON THE MAIN DIAL

NOW FOR THE BIGGEST FAKE, THAT IS USING THE DESIGNATION # SPEC SHEET NO. THE NAME A-7

THE  US MIL A-7 WATCH. YOU WILL SEE TONS OF WATCHES WITH A-7 ON BACK CAUSE? IT IS HARD TO FIND THE REAL A-7

SO WE DECIDED TO SHOW YOU ONE….:

THE A-7 A-8 AND A-11 ARE DESIGNATIONS OF SPECIFICATIONS THAT PRODUCED MILITARY ISSUE WATCHES WW11 AND BEFORE.

A) THE A-7 WAS THE 1930’S “AVIGATION” WATCH

B) THE A-8 IS THE FAMOUS JITTERBUG NAV TIMER

C) THE A-11 FAMOUS HACKING PILOTS WATCH. EACH WERE MADE FOR WW11

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THE AVIGATION WAS THOUGHT TO BE A COOL NAME FOR NAVIGATION AND AVIATION.
THE FACT IS, THIS IS THE HARDEST WATCH TO FAKE.

LOOK, BREITLING JAEGER LECOULTRE OMEGA DID NOT HAVE US  MILITARY CONTRACTS FOR WATCHES. WATCHES STATED AS AMERICAN US NAVY ARMY –WHAT EVER — WITH “W.W.W. AND/OR “BROAD ARROW” ON CASE BACK ARE FAKES. THESE ARE BRITISH DESIGNATIONS -ESPECIALLY OFFERS WITH THE WORD “VIETNAM” IN THEM.  NOTE NO BRAND ABOVE? AS IF THE GOV MADE THE WATCH. AN THIS OMEGA FAKE SOLD FOR SOME LARGE BUCKS.

AGAIN IT WAS A FAKE

IF THE MOVEMENT IS NOT SHOWN DO NOT BUY UNLESS YOU ARE SURE.

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